164: Create What’s Missing: Cedric Scott, Jr. on Representation, Reinvention, and STEM

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Hi everyone, welcome back to
another amazing episode of Ed Up

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Learning and Development.
I'm your host, Holly Owens, and

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today's conversation is packed
with inspiration, insight and

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actionable advice.
I'm thrilled to be joined by

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Cedric Scott Junior, an
educator, Ed tech influencer and

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all around powerhouse in the
learning space.

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Cedric has one of those
incredible journeys, from a

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background in chemistry to
becoming an instructional coach

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and now making ways in the Ed
tech world.

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In this episode, we talk about
his mission to improve STEM

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education for underserved
communities, the importance of

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representation in the classroom,
and how financial literacy can

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be a game changer in education.
We also get into the role of AI

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in the classroom and why no
matter what, how advanced a tech

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gets, human connection still
matters the most.

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Plus, if you're a teacher
thinking about making a shift

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into a new role, Cedric shares
some real talk and practical

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tips on how to leverage your
strengths and build meaningful

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network.
This is one of those episodes

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that will leave you fired up and
full of ideas.

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Hello everyone, and welcome to
another amazing episode of Ed Up

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Learning and Development.
My name is Holly Owens and I'm

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your host, and I'm super excited
about this episode because this

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guest and I should have talked
way sooner than what we're

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talking now, but we're finally
doing it.

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We're finally doing it.
So please welcome Cedric Scott

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Junior to the episode.
Cedric, welcome in.

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Thank you, Hollywood.
Yeah.

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And I know we, we've, we've had
this conversation.

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We're like, yeah, well, let's we
even.

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Even lived in the same area.
Exactly.

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But you know it, it happened
when it was supposed to.

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So I'm just grateful to be here.
Thank you so much for inviting

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me on and happy to have this
conversation with you.

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Me too.
I'm really excited and I know

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you're pretty.
I want to say you're you're

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definitely an influencer out
there on LinkedIn world and I

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follow you and all your the
different work that you're doing

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that's so inspirational.
But for the people that are

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listening right now who haven't
met you before, tell us about

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your journey.
How did you get into all these

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different endeavors that you're
you're you're doing of?

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Course, Yeah.
So originally I started out

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actually in science.
My background, bachelor's

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degree, earliest career pathway
and trajectory actually was in

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chemistry.
So I got my degree at Virginia

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State University, shouts to the
HBC US, and I got my degree in

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chemistry.
And then from there, I actually

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returned back home to my
hometown of Pittsburgh, PA,

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worked briefly in chemical
industry, and then I decided to

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pivot into education.
I always knew that I would do

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something in that, that space
teaching.

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I'd always been, you know,
supporting a lot of different

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people with learning, you know,
growing up as one of six

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children, have 4 younger
siblings.

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So helping with homework and
that type of thing was, was

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always there.
And then just being helpful and

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being mindful about other
people, their progression and,

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and just how I could be of
support and service.

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So pivoted into teaching, which
landed me in Washington DC,

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which was awesome and in a lot
of different capacities. 1 is

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because I got that experience,
of course, going into schools

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and engaging with youth
directly.

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Started out originally teaching
in 3rd grade, primarily in math

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and science, which was really
fun.

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I had a really good time.
And at the same time, you know,

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I was fortunate to actually meet
my wife, who is also a teacher.

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So yeah, that that all just
really panned out really well,

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which then led to kind of Fast
forward to now actually, I guess

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thinking more so about 2020 when
the pandemic hit.

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And that was the same time that
my son was born.

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And that was when I had
basically made the decision to

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pivot once again.
Up until that point I had been a

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teacher in different capacities,
mostly in elementary and work my

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way into being an instructional
coach.

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And then my last school based
role, I was actually an

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assistant principal at an
elementary school.

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And when I.
You've done it.

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All.
I've done a lot.

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I've done a lot.
Do you?

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Feel, I feel old.
Do you feel old when you start

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talking about your journey?
I'm like, I can't believe that

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I've done all this, but that's
this is amazing.

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Keep going.
I've I've felt old since I was

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10.
We'll dig into that.

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But yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, with my wife and I

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and, you know, knowing that our
son is coming into the world, I

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really just wanted to be present
and really be there and then and

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everything kind of shut down.
And that's when he was born late

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March 2020.
And then from there, I was able

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to make the shift again, more so
into the Ed tech or kind of

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education industry space, began
working in curriculum and

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product and things like that,
which allowed me also to work

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fully remote.
And happy to say that I've been

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fortunate enough to be fully
remote ever since my son came

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into the world.
You know he just turned 5 this

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year.
Oh, what a fun age.

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Yeah, so it's it's been great
being able to be here.

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I can do is commute in the
morning, grab him to, you know,

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pre-K he's going to be starting
kindergarten.

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And then also just being able to
support and be here, be present

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for my wife as well, who also is
still teaching, but she's doing

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so remotely, which is great.
And yeah, with creating all of

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this other stuff, I guess the, I
think the creative aspect of

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being an educator overall is, is
somewhat overshadowed often, I

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think in a lot of folks who
might be hearing this or, you

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know, watching this episode
probably attest to that.

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And what I found was that having
more time and just kind of like

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space and opportunity to tinker,
I began creating and thinking

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about what are the disparities
in what I saw as a student, but

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also as an educator in the
school system myself, right?

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Lack of representation, history,
you know, even things like

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financial literacy.
So I started creating and

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producing based off of that.
And then also gauging support

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from, you know, others outside
of even the school system

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itself.
Thinking about what's happening

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in the home school world, you
know, what types of things that

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can I put in place that could
really be of benefit long term?

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And thinking really just outside
of myself and even my own

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family, but really looking at
community and and consideration

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for our future and our youth.
Yeah, gosh, I you're so

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inspirational.
I, I, you know, I love your

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stuff.
You just and you like

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constantly, you know, like
reinvent things or you just take

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it and you just make it
something better.

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All the different things that
you're doing.

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But I want to talk about all
your different initiatives.

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So tell us a little bit about
you were mentioning before we

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started the episode the SEM
1000.

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You've rented 2 books.
You said a black AI media.

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Tell us about the things that
you're doing and how like you're

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helping education systems,
especially like, you know,

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underserved communities, people
that aren't organized, like

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you're saying about the
representation, which is so

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important nowadays, especially
with DEI programs being cut by

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the current administration.
So talk to us about that.

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Yeah.
Well, I'll preface it by saying

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that, you know, I had to anchor
everything away and, and the way

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that I did what that was
primarily thinking about my own

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reflection, upbringing,
experiences and what kind of

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shaped and molded me.
And one of those major

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influences, like many other
people, you know, where was my

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family and more specifically,
thinking about my mom, right?

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If I'd be remiss if I didn't,
you know, shout her out.

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And with that, one of the things
that, you know, one of the

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things I had to create was a
scholarship and like a

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scholarship fund in memory of
her because unfortunately, I

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mentioned that, you know, I
mentioned that I agree.

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No, no, no, it's fine.
It's so ridiculous now.

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But no, it's, I mentioned that
like, you know, I, I haven't,

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I've, I've felt old ever since I
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And part of that is due to I
lost my mom when I was 10 years

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old.
Well, you know, my family,

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right?
I mentioned myself, five

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siblings and that upbringing in
my father being, you know, an

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amazing person, amazing man and
doing all the work, every

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everything that he had to do to
keep us moving, which I can

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never give him enough praise and
love for that.

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But when I think about it, my
mom was one who really instilled

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a lot of the passion and just
like in terms of education, she

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was the one who was like, yes,
school do well do that, you know

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that she was all about learning.
Yeah, that was a great in in you

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from the beginning, huh?
Oh, yeah, it was, it was always

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there, right.
So with that though, you know, I

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think I was like, well, how can
I anchor everything that I'm

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doing?
Because I am, you know, someone

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who is, you know, whether they
what's what's I'm trying to

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think of what's the term?
It's it'll come back to me in a

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second.
Yeah.

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But multi hyphen, right?
Multi hyphenated where you got

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multiple things going around and
you try to figure out how to put

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it together.
So I created the the Julia

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Elizabeth Legacy Scholarship
Fund four years ago, and I've

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been each year awarding a
scholarship in memory of my mom

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for an African American high
school student that's pursuing a

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STEM degree pathway.
So anchoring everything there,

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I'm like, all right, well,
everything I create and produce

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is going to have to kind of
funnel and filter into this,

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this overarching big major,
ultimate goal of providing a

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full scholarship, right.
So with that, what I, what I

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started doing initially with
just creating was, you know, I,

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I was in education, so start
producing material, content

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resources.
And that led me to where I am

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now with STEM 1000, which is
kind of like my driving thing

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now, because if I try to focus
on too many things, as most

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people would know you, you, you
look kind of lose sight and, and

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veer off track.
So I'm like using STEM 1000.

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So stem1000.com as my my
grounding in a lot of this and

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what STEM 1000 is essentially it
has the moniker of 1000 books,

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1000 futures.
What does that mean?

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So two books, I have one right
here.

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Actually, this is the first one
initially that I started with

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the kind of initiative or
campaign, it's called algorithms

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of success, STEM Stories to
Inspire.

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So within this book, there are
50 different STEM careers and

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pathways it up just to kind of
show it.

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And with each one of those
there's also, you know, of

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course, imagery.
And this is for this.

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Is for younger children.
This is not for adults.

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This is, and you know, this is
not necessarily for like anybody

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carrying younger K to 12, but
this is for younger children.

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Exactly.
Yeah, Yeah.

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So fifty career pathways within
this book, but then building on

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it, it's, it's really about
exposure representation, because

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I like to say that, you know,
exposure plus experience equals

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education.
In order to become something,

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you have to know that it exists.
And then you can step into that

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space, engage with it, and then
you become educated on that

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thing.
And then, oh, now I can now I

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can step into this world.
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I had to know that it existed

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first and then I had to get
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Oh, I like mixing things
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I go in the lab.
This is wonderful.

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And then on the back end of it
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So that's where I started with
algorithms of success and I

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created another book that is
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than this book or ages 4 through
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And that book is called a is for
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rhyming, very child friendly

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language that introduces
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to technology based concepts.
So this a is for algorithm, you

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know, all the way down to like
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really kind of I think been able
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innovative aspects of of
creations and creativity and in

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production like using AI for
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these books, if you go to the
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we'll.
Definitely have everything in

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the show notes about the two
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I appreciate that.
But yeah, last page of them, you

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can actually scan AQR code.
This is just an example of one

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thing, but you can scan AQR code
which will actually take you to

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a STEM music playlist that I was
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right?
So it's 7 songs that are all

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related to stem concepts and
different types of like music

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genres.
So you get, you get like an

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Afrobeat style.
There's one that's like all in

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Spanish.
So it's a different variation.

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hey, check this out, meet you
where you are right?

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Engage, intrigue, and then
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it's, it's all basically, you
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driven, which is what I'm really
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learning.
Yeah, and you so writing two

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books, I know it doesn't matter
what type it takes a while.

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people, I think so often, like,
I think one of the reasons we

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connected as we were talking
about like the Ed Hustle, when

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you were supporting teachers
that were there, you're

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supporting teachers that do
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younger children the opportunity

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to kind of think about what
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And I love it now.
Well, love, hate that education

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can be very personalized for
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I wish when we were in school
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I feel like I had to pick
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interested me.
Like I was in a four year

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cluster situation, like cluster
going to a college and things

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and I didn't really get to find
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Like it's just like this is what
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you have to take.
And then college was kind of

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like that too.
But it seems to there's more

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becoming more flexibility now in
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focus in on like STEM and stuff
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Is that how you see?
Is that how you see it or is

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that you do have a different
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No, it's I, I see it that way.

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that was kind of always my, my
shaping and framing of it.

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I love that I did not have that.

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I'm jealous.
Even as a even as a math

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teacher, and I think this this
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something to be said about
people who kind of move into

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education from a different
industry, especially if your

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teaching or your focus of
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aligned to that thing.
So me being a science person,

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scientist, and then also just
really enjoying like creativity,

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artistry, like you can see, like
even just you know, the stuff I

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didn't.
I.

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Love it right?
Like, I mean, I created this

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T-shirt that had like, so it's,
there's more to it.

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you step into a space where

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traditionally things are a
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better phrase, confined and, you
know, in terms of a classroom

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and then you go in and kind of
just shake it up.

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It's, it's a little bit
different, right?

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There's a there, the outcomes
are going to be a little

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different.
And I, I say, I can say that by

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a couple of different just, I
guess experiences based on my

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teaching, you know, my
background there when I began

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actually in math in 3rd grade,
the approach to it was all

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inquiry based.
Like my favorite phrase to my

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students in, in my third grade
math class was I don't know.

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Like, Hey, what do you think
about this?

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I don't know.
And then it would, it got, it's

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funny, I tell people all the
time, it got to a point where,

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you know, even, you know, within
that school we would have, you

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know, transfers come in mid
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That's a whole nother
conversation.

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But we'd have, you know,
students come in to the

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classroom, you know, from
whatever other school moving or

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whatever, and they would ask me
the questions, hey, can you tell

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me if this is right?
And the students who had been

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there with me that the, you
know, since the beginning of the

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year, they'd be like, I don't
know why you're asking him.

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He's going to tell you.
He has to know.

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Yeah.
Talk to them, right?

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Just avoid that.
Yeah, situation as well.

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I love that though, because then
you're, you're requiring them,

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you know, you've heard things
like 3 before me.

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professional setting, I use that

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because everybody just wants the
answer right away.

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I'm like, well, why don't you
explore it a little bit for

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yourself first?
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So one of the things that, you
know, AI, like you have all all

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these different things.
It won't replace teachers

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necessarily, but like, what does
it like to you?

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What does the classroom that's
powered by like AI and human

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connection look like, like in in
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Like what is, what is that?
How does do all those synergies

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come together?
That's probably a loaded

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question.
It is.

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Well, you know, it's interesting
because the answers to some of

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these same questions now we're
probably a little bit different

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a month, two months, three
months, like is it all move so

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fast?
Because you do have

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implementation and some of the
expansion of leveraging and

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using AI in schools, different
changes in policies and things

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like that.
And actually just did a, a, a

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presentation last week.
Well, we're currently in what

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June, the month, the week of
June 16th.

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I don't know when this is going
to be, but last week early,

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early in June for national Black
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And my presentation was talking
about AI education and the

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future of work.
And part of that was really

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considering, well, what's
happening right now, right?

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Where are we?
We do see, you know, Khan

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Academy's con migo and you know
that being used as a a teaching

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assistant slash tutor.
We do see a lot of Ed tech

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companies or folks creating.
I always use the airport

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solutions that, you know, apply
an employee using AI where I see

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this potentially ultimately
being I think what we'll begin

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to kind of see more of is
definitely more, you know, I

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think what I would hope more
opportunity for educators,

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teachers in the space to be more
directly connected with students

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right and meaning.
Where they're at like.

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Yeah.
You know, like the the

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resistors, I just have to
mention those people that have

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just like New York, I'm starting
to interrupt.

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But this is like something that
like really stuck with me when

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AI first came out.
Is New York City completely

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banned ChatGPT within days of it
being released?

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Like nobody's allowed to use it.
Well, here's here's why I say

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for for folks in education
especially, I think part of our

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positioning, right and emphasis
should be right, not tell

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anybody what they what, what
what to do, but should be as

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objective as possible.
That's my aim, right?

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Because we do have, and I'm not
saying that anybody's wrong

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because I get the understanding
of it from from all the sides,

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right.
If we're looking at we got over

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on here, we got the doom and
gloom Terminator.

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The robots are coming to take
over fit.

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Like like Will Smith and I
Robot.

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I'm not stalking at those people
because I've I've seen some

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interest.
I've I've personally ridden in a

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way MO driverless taxi.
So this is a real and I also

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know people who are look who
would look at me and say I would

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never do that.
That's crazy, right?

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So there's that fair other side.
Oh, let's just leverage and get

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rich and become billionaires.
Fair, right.

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Like, because this is all like
we're talking about potential

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impossibility in the middle is
essentially where I try to

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ground myself, which for me just
means that I need to be as well

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informed as possible to tell
people on either side of the

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fence.
This is what really is right.

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Like you, you see it that way,
That's fine.

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But here's the truth, right?
Here's what we know.

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And then building on that, being
in a classroom where we can see

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this, of course, teachers
engaging with students more so

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on a personal relationship based
level.

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Also being able to leverage and
use, you know, some of the AI

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tools for more personalization,
more customization, meeting the

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needs of the student, which is
great because I've even done

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this with homeschool families,
you know, create a create us a

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plan for my child whose interest
is in dinosaurs so that they

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don't have summer slide, right?
We can, we can create that type

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of stuff and then put it in
place.

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But it's it's going to be really
interesting to see, I think just

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how, just how really, because
the implementation of everything

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always falls on teachers, right
it.

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Absolutely.
Does in education like to?

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Test it out.
I mean, so it's like we can we

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can push all this stuff and and
put these initiatives in place

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and the district can have this
whole trickle down effect, but

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it's really going to fall on the
shoulders of teachers to say,

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OK, well, this is how we're
going to put it in place, right?

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So what does that mean for
younger learners?

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Maybe that's, you know, AI
driven centers, like where we're

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already kind of seeing that
where there's usually a

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technology center.
If you're looking at especially

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like K through 2K through three,
I mean, they're engaging with

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some type of technology, a
tablet, a laptop or whatever

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they log into whatever program,
math, etcetera.

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Maybe there's something that's
AI driven there.

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But we're also seeing in just
some of the research that I've

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recently done is that a lot of
teachers are more so making use

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of it for some of the
personalization, but also in

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support was like some of the
planning, right?

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And taking, yeah, saving time,
right?

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Those are still like the key
kind of pillars that people are

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leaning on.
But ultimately it's it's going

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to be more of like, well, what's
what's pushed, what's encouraged

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and what's enforced so that the
teachers are going to have to

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basically get to a point where
the, you know, realization is

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the district wants me to do
this.

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I have to do it in this way.
So it's it's still very, very

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loose to the point where that
nobody can really say exactly

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what it looks like, but.
Right.

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We can't predict the future.
We didn't, certainly didn't

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think AI was going to be this
sophisticated at this point, did

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we?
I don't know.

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But I mean, the main thing is
how do we step in to inform

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people, to educate people,
right?

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Because again, going back to my
equation, exposure plus

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experience equals education,
exposing to this right, to the

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resource, to the tool, to this
whole world, right?

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Showcasing it.
Because there's a lot of people

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who are talking about things and
they'll tell you, you know, what

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to do, why you should do it and
when you should do it.

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But a lot, there's not a lot of
the how, which is what I found

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just with education in general,
when you talk about professional

452
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,920
development, professional
learning, whenever you're able

453
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,360
to have more of a hand holding
experience, right?

454
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:40,560
Where my, for example, my goal
leading any PLC, any

455
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,440
professional development
session, anything like that ever

456
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,320
is always for everybody in the
space to be able to take at

457
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,280
least one thing away and play
the next day.

458
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,560
Like, I don't need you to be
able to use this next week or

459
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,520
next year.
I need you to use it tomorrow,

460
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,080
right?
So what, how are we doing that

461
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,120
implementation, right?
If we're, if we're saying, oh,

462
00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:04,160
we need to use AI, let's
implement it, Let's put it in

463
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:10,760
place, OK, but make it so that
it's applicable now, because

464
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,360
again, if you put this on a
teacher's desk and say you have

465
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:20,200
to do this and it's only out of
compliance, are we really going

466
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,960
to get the full benefit of it?
And ultimately will the students

467
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,880
get the full benefit of it?
If, if that's where we're

468
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,600
focused, right?
Or is it just like, oh, it's

469
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,840
another box to check, Don't do
that, right?

470
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,240
Be mindful about it.
Otherwise we, we might need to

471
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,360
think about how we're
approaching right.

472
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:36,360
What's the, what's the
reasoning?

473
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:38,400
What's the point behind this?
Because if it's not for the

474
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,000
benefit of we'll say the
teachers, but also definitely

475
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,560
the students and looking into
the future, which is where I'm

476
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,400
kind of positioned more so then
we got to start asking ourselves

477
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,440
questions like, well, why is
this happening?

478
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,280
What's the point?
That's great advice and great

479
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,680
perspective on how to how to
deal with that.

480
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,400
You know, I think a lot about
the diffusion of innovation

481
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,600
theory where there's like the
Luddites at the end and the

482
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,760
people like us who just
automatically latch on.

483
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,120
And then in the middle, that's
kind of where we try to find, we

484
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:07,320
find that happy medium for
people are kind of like

485
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,240
apprehensive, but people that
they really do want to explore

486
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,040
it and figuring out where we can
support them and implementation.

487
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,240
Not just like you're saying, not
just telling them what to do,

488
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,000
give them the space for trial
and error 'cause that's what

489
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:24,800
this is, that sort of situation.
So we're coming up on the end of

490
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,640
the episode here, but I
definitely wanna.

491
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,080
You're a transition teacher.
You have quite the following now

492
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,320
on LinkedIn.
You're an influencer by all

493
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,120
those standards.
Yes, I know, Cedric, people say

494
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:40,680
the same thing to me.
And I'm like, no, that's not me.

495
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,000
I'm just out here trying to help
save the world.

496
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,560
So what is some advice if you
know as a transition teacher

497
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,200
that you can maybe maybe 3
actionable items that if you're

498
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,080
they're thinking about
transitioning out, what could

499
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,040
they do?
You know, as we continue to

500
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,360
expand like in the world of AI
and having all these different

501
00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,960
things available, the support
that you offer and making sure

502
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,280
everybody's representative, what
can teachers do to transition

503
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,960
out?
You know what is the advice you

504
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,560
would give all?
Right here we go.

505
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:13,760
OK, because I I do I do have
this so.

506
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,240
I know I asked you a lot of
interesting questions.

507
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,840
You did great.
No, no, no, you're ready.

508
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,240
So the first thing I've
recommended and and walk people

509
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,520
through and actually have videos
on and stuff like that is

510
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,800
basically taking really
practical hands on.

511
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,680
Take a sheet of paper, fold it
in half on one side of the paper

512
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,480
at the top right, we're making
AT chart right strengths.

513
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,720
On the other side of the paper,
write interest.

514
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,880
We're going to take a survey
because what happens, especially

515
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,080
with a lot of recommendation and
advice on, on LinkedIn I've

516
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,200
seen, you know, primarily is if
people say, oh, you got to

517
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,720
narrow it down.
You got to find your niche.

518
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,600
You got to like target your
focus.

519
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,360
Here's how you do it on the
strength side.

520
00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,280
You list all the things that you
are amazing at that you can

521
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,680
prove.
It's very important that you can

522
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,600
prove based on your actual
experience, right?

523
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,120
So list those things.
For me, it's things like, I

524
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:14,320
don't know, math, I'm good with
leading professional

525
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,480
development, so on so forth,
right.

526
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,200
You can list those things out
STEM on the other side is your

527
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,000
interests.
And some of these are going to

528
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,880
have overlap, which is the
point, right?

529
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,240
On the other side, you list your
interests.

530
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,240
What are what are the things
that you actually can see

531
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,480
yourself really doing?
What are you, what do you, what

532
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,680
do you enjoy?
Right?

533
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,760
List those things out.
If that's writing, if that's

534
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,600
presentations, whatever, then
cross reference those columns.

535
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,680
And then from there you can
actually start to, if you want

536
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,360
matter of fact, since we have AI
now this, I wasn't using it at

537
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,680
the time when I did this, but
you can go into a ChatGPT or a

538
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,760
cloud or whatever it is that
you're using and say what job

539
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,760
titles align to these cross
points, right?

540
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,440
Math and curriculum, math and
presentations.

541
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,160
And then you can from there, you
can begin to generate

542
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,040
essentially job titles and areas
of focus that are also grounded

543
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,840
in your success.
And when I say success, things

544
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,480
that you can point to on like
we'll say your resume that you

545
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,520
have been amazing at, right?
Don't necessarily think so much

546
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:26,800
about ultimately, like I get
that people have like large

547
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,720
dreams and goals and they think
that they want to go in One

548
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,280
Direction and and try this thing
out.

549
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,120
But the first thing would be
narrow down to like where you're

550
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,880
amazing at, right?
I read this book.

551
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,640
Where are you going?
Exactly.

552
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,760
I'm sure you've talked to
transitioning teachers.

553
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,320
And I'm like, I want to be an
instructional designer.

554
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,360
And I'm like yes, and what part?
Yeah.

555
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,040
And also like, what about your
background and experience speaks

556
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,200
directly to you being successful
as an instructional designer?

557
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,840
And like where and what you've
done says I have already done

558
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,240
this thing successfully because
at that point, you're then

559
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,600
stepping out and, and saying,
well, just give, just give me a

560
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,600
chance.
And you're competing against

561
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,400
people who have already been
successful in that world.

562
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,440
And in our, you know, let's say
I have three years of

563
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,360
instructional design design
experience and a transitioning

564
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,360
teacher who albeit might have 20
years experience teaching.

565
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,840
If you don't have instructional
design experience specifically,

566
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,120
then that might not look great
in comparison.

567
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,880
So real quick, there's a book
that I read.

568
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,240
It's more so about marketing
business, but it helps with

569
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,040
this.
It's called Brands Don't Win.

570
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,080
And essentially what the the
idea of brands don't win is, is

571
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,520
that you want to be able to
position this.

572
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,600
Yeah, it's awesome.
You want to be able to position

573
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,400
yourself in a way that you're
playing the game that only you

574
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,760
can win or the game that you
have the best chance at winning,

575
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,360
right?
The the, the subheading of of

576
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,040
that book or the subtitle of
that book is how transcenders

577
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,080
change the game, change the
game.

578
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,400
Don't play the game at everybody
else's.

579
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,560
I'm not going to jump into the
pool of professionals that are

580
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,520
looking for a role in English
language arts and my background

581
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,160
is in is in math and science.
I lose every time, right?

582
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,160
I'm jumping into the pond where
I'm the big fish because I was a

583
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,040
chemist, instructional coach,
blah blah blah blah blah, right?

584
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,400
Did curriculum.
I look great over here, not over

585
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,160
here.
So positioning is number one.

586
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,560
Second thing, highly recommend.
Even in the midst of you working

587
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,800
full time.
This is not, I'm not saying this

588
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,360
is easy, but I highly recommend
getting into contract work if

589
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,760
feasible.
If you can land a contract,

590
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,840
especially doing something that
you think you want to do and

591
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,760
getting a little bit of
experience there.

592
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,640
Oh I want to go into curriculum
writing.

593
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,280
My backgrounds in math teaching.
See where you can fit and find a

594
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,320
role short term.
Something like that.

595
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,200
Contract based.
Doing some math curriculum

596
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,680
development.
You might find that you actually

597
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,400
hate doing that.
Yeah, that does happen.

598
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,800
But there's also it's also
aligned right in terms of the

599
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,760
experience overall outside but.
On your resume.

600
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,000
Exactly, Yeah, right.
And I mean, you make money,

601
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,360
right.
Great.

602
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,680
But at the same time, you can
still be doing what you're doing

603
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,200
full time, keep your health
benefits, all that cool stuff,

604
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,360
but but get that experience,
right.

605
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,920
So that's the next phase.
Next phase of it is kind of

606
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,560
building those things out.
The third one, I mean, if I can

607
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:38,080
throw out 1/3, yeah, in terms of
alignment would then really be,

608
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,320
I mean networking is a contact
sport.

609
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,680
I'll be just be completely.
I love it that you said that

610
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,720
because it's so true.
Even even on even virtually on

611
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,240
LinkedIn, like, yeah, what I'll
say is, is, is kind of thinking

612
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,880
about things from the there's
well, stark difference between

613
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,480
education system and education
industry.

614
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,160
Sorry, that was a kind of
another tip.

615
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,280
But know the difference between
there right where you're

616
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,000
pivoting now into an industry
world where things are a little

617
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,000
bit more focused on aspects like
revenue and money and, and

618
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,200
growth and, and.
Pipelines and sales and APIs and

619
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,200
all the things.
Yeah.

620
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,240
So I mean, the verbiage is going
to shift and things like that.

621
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,400
But what really helps more than
anything when people say, hey,

622
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,280
you know what the secret is to,
to getting a job in Ed tech or

623
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,720
to get a job in education
industry.

624
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,840
I'm going to be honest with you.
The the secret is that there is

625
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:37,680
no secret unless, unless you
have somebody that is already in

626
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,680
that space who can lift up the
curtain and say, hey, come on,

627
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,160
come underneath.
That's the secret.

628
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,120
And how do you get to that
point?

629
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,680
By connecting directly with
folks, having conversations,

630
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,200
rubbing elbows with people,
joining in conversations, you

631
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,240
know, on other, you know,
platforms, whether that's group

632
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,440
forums, engaging in different
events, stuff like that.

633
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,600
To the point where whenever a
role comes out, because a lot of

634
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,560
times, you know, with companies,
for example, a lot of the roles,

635
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,920
the aim is to backfill them
internally, right?

636
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,199
So who do we have here already?
Because we trust everybody here,

637
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,400
right?
They weren't.

638
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,880
The.
System exactly.

639
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,280
How it?
Works.

640
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,520
And if we can't feel from
within, then OK, the next phase

641
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,520
of that is who do we know here
that knows somebody that can be

642
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,080
brought in?
And at that point, oh, I talked

643
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,199
to Holly at this event or I saw
her this presentation or I

644
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,280
checked out her podcast.
I think she'd be amazing for

645
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,120
this.
Hey, Holly, this role just came

646
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,440
out.
What do you think about this

647
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,760
right now?
What happens?

648
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,480
You talk, you talk to me inside
track.

649
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,239
I can talk to the manager,
right?

650
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,480
Or, or you can put me list me as
a reference, you know what I

651
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,320
mean?
Or whatever you on that, that

652
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,120
application, you get filtered to
the top.

653
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,000
Now you just increase the chance
there.

654
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,400
So that would be the last thing,
which is just target

655
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,240
specifically after you've
already outlined direction that

656
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,640
you should go based on your
experience, right?

657
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,600
You started to look at all
right, Well, this makes sense.

658
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,880
I'm going to go in this
direction.

659
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:10,640
What organizations, what
companies, what people align

660
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,360
with the solutions, the things
that you care about that you're

661
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,120
amazing at, connect with them.
LinkedIn, if you go to the the

662
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,440
company's page, they have a
little people tab.

663
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,400
Right.
Go to those people.

664
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,320
Oh, I saw that this is, you
know, that you work here.

665
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,560
I saw that this is, you know,
open or available.

666
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,800
I want to connect, have some
conversations that might lead to

667
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,240
something that's a little more
inside track, in which case you

668
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,440
again, how transcenders change
the game.

669
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,760
And you know, we're, we're
talking about kind of separating

670
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,000
yourself a little bit from the
pack.

671
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,400
Absolute great pieces of advice
and very structured like how to

672
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,040
actually how to do it.
So re listen to that last few

673
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,200
minutes people and take that
advice.

674
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,600
Cedric, I can't thank you enough
for coming on the show and

675
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,720
sharing all the different things
that you're doing.

676
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,880
You're you're so inspirational.
And I'm not just saying that I'm

677
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,680
a follower.
I see all the things that you're

678
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,000
doing and I really appreciate,
you know, all the resources and

679
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,200
the information and the things
that you put out there to make

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00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,760
all everybody successful and
feel like they're, you know,

681
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,760
they're a part of your
community.

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00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,520
You have a vast community.
So where can everybody find you?

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00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,400
We're going to have this on the
show notes and you're going to

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00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,440
have you're going to fill out
your little guest form.

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00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,080
But where can people find you?
What do you want want them to

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00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,560
know about you?
You know, final thoughts as we

687
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,840
wrap up the I wrap up this
episode.

688
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,520
Well, first, thank you for
inviting me on again.

689
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,040
Yeah, really appreciate it and
enjoyed having this, you know,

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00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,880
this sit down with you.
But yeah, you can find me

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00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,760
primarily I would say go to
LinkedIn, Cedric Scott, Cedric

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00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,480
Scott Junior with my little, you
know, Masters of Education

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00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,760
credential at the end.
Yeah, I love it too.

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00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,680
I should be writing.
That too.

695
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,200
I got it there, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,360
Check me out there.
Connect with me, send me a

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00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,040
message.
I do respond just just so people

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00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,040
know.
And then where my my primary

699
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,800
push again is STEM 1000.
I am the the founder of Black AI

700
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,080
Media as well at
blackaimedia.com, which focuses

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00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,880
on really uplifting and
empowering the Black global

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00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,440
community when it comes to AI
and technology.

703
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,360
So learning more about folks
across the globe.

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00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,720
You have to do another whole
episode.

705
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,640
Of that and stuff, but you're.
Coming back on.

706
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,600
But yeah, really just, you know,
STEM 1000 because I think the

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00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,240
urgency of thinking about the
future of work, career

708
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:38,560
development for our youth and
really equipping them right now

709
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,520
is of the utmost importance.
That's kind of just where I'm

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00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,640
really targeted.
So you can go to stem1000.com.

711
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,920
You can check out the the kind
of the the main books, which are

712
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,400
again, algorithms of success.
A is for algorithm and there's

713
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,720
some also some other resources
and cool stuff there too.

714
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,280
But those are the main things.
Just trying to get the

715
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,720
information into the hands of
our youth and be able to support

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00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,920
schools, families, everybody
right when it comes.

717
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,720
To that, I love it so much.
I love it so much.

718
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:12,880
Thank you so much, Cedric again,
we're definitely I'm definitely

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00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,760
we're going to have to have a
follow up so for some of the

720
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,360
other initiatives as well and
talking about, you know, the

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00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,320
black AI media, all those
different things.

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00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,800
So but thank you for what you do
and thank you for being a great

723
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,440
part of this community and a
contributor and an influencer.

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00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,800
I have absolute the utmost
respect for you and thanks for

725
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,720
coming on the show.
Thank you so much.

726
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:33,640
I appreciate it.
And I got the utmost respect for

727
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,160
you too.
So thanks for what you're doing.

728
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,680
Keep it up.
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